and again, president obama refuses to talk about any of them. he doesn't think we have a spending problem. well, then why is our nation hitting the credit card limit again? because the government is spending too much. we have to solve that problem. >> many thanks. appreciate it, sir. >> great being with you. >>> let's bring in our panel to talk about this. we have molly ball with the atlantic. kate, author of "divider in chief." and robert costa from the national review. if i wanted a deal, i wouldn't insult, demonize and pound away at the opposition. he certainly to use a cnbc phrase is not rising above partion. where does he get off doing this? >> larry, this is the politics of what happens in washington. president obama went to the podium today and he outlined the hard-line position. this was red meat for the liberal base. we know though just as we saw in the fiscal cliff that a deal will have to be struck to avoid a government shut down. i think he ultimately he will come to the center, depends how much. >> kate, i don't think america is a d